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#1 User is offline   jovo Icon

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Posted 02 July 2009 - 03:48 PM

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So today I was banned for "Cheats N Hax' by the admin, rag. I think this was the first time I've played with him, but I can't be quite sure. Most people know me as jovo or Davidelonato's #1 fan. I know mostly every admin, and have a few on my friends list that I'm cool with. I've never been accused of cheating/hacking before, except by rag, an admin I do not know. The map we were playing was Cafeteria, and basically every round ( me and a few others included ) would spam that wall at spawn. Maybe this is what triggered him to think I was "cheating". Well, I really don't have much else to say, but I really hope he made a demo. This would clearly show that I was definately not cheating, what so ever. Use X-spectate and it would be obvious that I play legitimately. Hopefully next time rag can see the difference between a good cs player, and a low-life cheater. Maybe he just has a grudge against me? I don't know. If it is that, I would like us to settle it differently then resolving to this. After all, this is a server that I enjoy just like many others do. Please admins, don't dismiss this post. See to it that it's resolved. I really do love this server.

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Posted 02 July 2009 - 04:02 PM

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Player Davidelonato´s #1 Fan.
Bantype SteamID
SteamID STEAM_0:1:543020
Invoked on 02-07-2009 - 18:11
Banlength Permanent
Expires on Not applicable.
Reason cheats n´ hax
Banned by Admin Rag (Jeff)
Banned on Server Fun Maps - Cause4alarm.net
Previous offences 2

Banhistory
12/06 j0v000 Mr. Sucky Nade spamming (reported by Blimmp) 4320minutes
18/10 jovo Chris Hanson tking 5000minutes


We'll have to wait for rag to reply and see what he has to say about this situation.

Please be patient.

Thanks.

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Posted 02 July 2009 - 04:31 PM

Rag and I were talkin' throughout the map and thinking most shots were looking fishy, i have a demo but then my internet kinda lagged out and it isn't really long enough i think to 100% prove anything.

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Posted 02 July 2009 - 04:58 PM

The only thing that can be deduced from that demo is... I use educated spams, I miss shots, and I check corners. Not really something a cheater would do. I mean, use x-spectate... there's nothing fishy going on. No tracing, shakiness of crosshair, perfect walling, nothing... The only thing fishy I would say, is a good cs player spending a lot of their time in a Fun map server :) Well that's because I enjoy it. I mean, I could get anyone of my teammates in the server, and they would top frag too... consistently. It's just the skill gap between a pubber and an online/lan experienced 6 year player.

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Posted 02 July 2009 - 08:59 PM

i've played with him and from my experience, he's just good...

from that demo i dont really see anything suspicious
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Sorry im not a admin, but i cannot let this go to rest.
I can promise, 100%, that he DOES NOT HACK. I have played him serveral times, watched the demos, watched him in spec, even took the time to look at his steam profile, and the evidence is all there. The demos show that he is a awesome player that actually LISTENS to sounds around him, The several times i spec him, there is nothing to saw he hacks. Ive seen his hearing abillitys, so to speak, and i can assure you he doesnt have any of these hacks you speak off. Lets take a few player here for example for this next opinion. If ian always scored perfect, how many of us would accuse him of hacking? If a normal player always scored 20 - 1 on a map, would you call him a hacker? Sure you would, rightfully. We always suck. Nothing person to all of us. We have our good rounds, and our bad ones. If he hacked, the VAC would catch his feebler attempts, and any better would be EASILY noticed. I say you take a look at these logs.
I do not know him entirly, but the times that ive played against him, i can tell he isnt hacking. And if he only uses hacks some of the times, what is the point in that? Thats all i got to say.

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Posted 02 July 2009 - 09:20 PM

Here is demo.

I had to quit playing the game to watch. I don't remember ever playing with you before either and was just asked to watch by another player. There were other admins in there at the time and as you can tell I gave any other admin who may be watching a chance to say that you were clean or whatever. I asked Legacy if he was positive that you were and he said yes. I still recorded my own and as you can see in it some very odd stuff is going on. It looked to me that you knew where the enemies were, knew exactly where to spam walls and hit... that is a pretty frickin wide hall after all and you were aiming at a very small spot. Towards the end I saw a bizarre nade throw towards your own spawn and it just so happened a couple of guys were there. I'm 90% sure of something going down here and I made sure to prepare a demo just incase.

If anyone disagrees, I have no problem in removing it with an apology included.
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Posted 02 July 2009 - 10:53 PM

After reviewing the demo, I think he's legit. He does check his corners quite often, and guessed where the T's would most likely be by spamming the walls. I don't believe he knew exactly where they were.

Regarding the nade throw near the end of Rag's demo, I felt that was simply a random throw. I don't think he wanted to open that door and then throw it, while he might've been shot at.

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Posted 03 July 2009 - 04:56 AM

I spam where I spawn. Chances are someone will be on the other side exactly where you are. Actually quite a few, the spawns are basically identical and go in a straight line. That's why the margin I spam in is so small. Other than that, I also spam down the far left or far right side of the wall. You were too busy watching me to notice, but if you were to die and spec the other side where the t's were spamming, that's usually where they were spamming from. Also about that nade. If it's the one I'm thinking of, ( near the end of the demo, when I'm the last one alive, excluding the afk ) you can clearly hear the t's rushing for me, hence that nade... I don't know about you, but I use 5.1 heaphones, and an X-Fi creative soundblaster soundcard with tweaked settings. Although not as helpful in pubs do to the fact that there is so much spamming of weapons and chatter over the mic. I am still able to tell where a person is, in a small location using my sound.

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Posted 03 July 2009 - 08:56 AM

It wouldn't be a big deal to remove the ban if anyone disagrees.

Can more admins look at this please and post what they think.
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Posted 03 July 2009 - 10:45 AM

nothing too suspicious
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Sorry im not a admin, but i cannot let this go to rest.
I can promise, 100%, that he DOES NOT HACK. I have played him serveral times, watched the demos, watched him in spec, even took the time to look at his steam profile, and the evidence is all there. The demos show that he is a awesome player that actually LISTENS to sounds around him, The several times i spec him, there is nothing to saw he hacks. Ive seen his hearing abillitys, so to speak, and i can assure you he doesnt have any of these hacks you speak off. Lets take a few player here for example for this next opinion. If ian always scored perfect, how many of us would accuse him of hacking? If a normal player always scored 20 - 1 on a map, would you call him a hacker? Sure you would, rightfully. We always suck. Nothing person to all of us. We have our good rounds, and our bad ones. If he hacked, the VAC would catch his feebler attempts, and any better would be EASILY noticed. I say you take a look at these logs.
I do not know him entirly, but the times that ive played against him, i can tell he isnt hacking. And if he only uses hacks some of the times, what is the point in that? Thats all i got to say.

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Posted 03 July 2009 - 12:36 PM

View PostLostlProph3t, on 03 July 2009 - 02:45 PM, said:

nothing too suspicious


Go ahead and lock thread please.

Unbanned.
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Posted 03 July 2009 - 12:48 PM

Thank you.

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